Thursday, July 14, 2016

Personality Tag ISTJ: The Duty Fulfiller/Inspector


RULES

1. (optional) Thank whoever nominated you/Post the above button

2. Find two favorite quotes for your personality type

3. Name three favorite movie characters that have your personality and one weakness in your personality that you're trying to change (or more if you really want to)

4. Tell us a little bit about your personality

5. Have you ever taken a personality test? If so, which one?

6. Tag three to five people 



I was tagged by my sister to explain my personality type, but first, Rebekah, a few things on the above image you said I had to post on my blog: 
1. Your blog name should be horizontally centered for the sake of continuity and aesthetic appeal. The title is horizontally centered, the background is a grid, and your blog URL is screaming "OUT OF PLACE!"
2. This font that you picked has letters that are all the wrong heights; the uppercase are smaller than the lower case. This demonstrates a shocking lack of respect for a rationally founded tradition. 
3. The title is encroaching horribly into the introvert spaces, while the smaller and less ostentatious URL is not blocking any of the extroverts letters. This is inconsiderate of the introvert half of the grid, who did not even want to be there.





I am an ISTJ. In other words, your typical detail and fact oriented boring but very responsible person. 



ISTJs are the most common personality among men, (twice as common among men than women), the most common personality over all in the British population, and are most the most common personality among police officers as men, and librarians as women. Other common careers for the ISTJ are management and accounting.
ISTJs are rarely the villain or hero in stories. Usually they are the pillars of society, either manifesting themselves as the Voice of Reason, or Ye Olde Fuddy-Duddy, depending on the perspective of the writer. Some examples of ISTJs in books and movies would be the following (I tried to use some of the movies Rebekah did, so you can have an idea how our personalities interact sometimes):

Master Shifu, from Kung Fu Panda
Javert, from Les Mis (though he may be extroverted, I am not sure on this one)
Bagheera, from The Jungle Book
Manny, from Ice Age
Aragorn, from the Lord of the Rings
Spock, from Star Trek
Eeyore, from Winnie the Pooh
Puddleglum, from The Silver Chair
Wemmick's office character from Great Expectations (we do also have the side that goes home and sets off cannons, we just do not display it to the general public)


My two favorite historical ISTJs are George Washington and the Duke of Wellington (the English chap who beat Napoleon). 

The ISTJ personality's dominant trait is actually introverted sensing. This is a rather interesting fact, because everyone sees their secondary trait, extroverted thinking, the most strongly because it is extroverted, however, the sensing function is gathering vast amounts of data all the time and internalizing it into some sort of organized structure. Very little of this data actually comes out, and that which does has been pretty thoroughly verified and backed with tons of other data, when it comes out it presents the ISTJ as a very strongly thinking person, though, because the data is usually objective and organized logically. 



The thing to keep in mind with ISTJs in your life is that they are observant first, and thoughtful second. So, while they may not be acting really enthusiastic about what you are talking about, they may be just internalizing the information and comparing it against their structure of the world they have already created with other data. I will seem the most excited about that which I have already learned, understood, and processed completely, because my thinking can act extroverted right away with this, but I am always looking for new information to add, it just takes me a while to process any new information to the point where I am comfortable actually displaying a reaction. ISTJs are therefore not as stuck in their ways as they seem. They are only stuck in their ways when people spring things on them with no time to process before expecting a reaction. This is when the ISTJ falls back on the already known data and digs their heels in. They like information, especially practical and useful information from people who they consider to be reliable sources of information relevant to their job, hobbies, or other interests and character areas they want to see grow in their own life. 

Maintaining friends take a great deal of effort for the ISTJ. We are introverted, but also a personality hesitant to commit at all without committing fully in projects.  People are hard to commit to, though, because they do not have deadlines or a concrete grading system. Too much fuzzy area for the black and white ISTJ. The result is that they will develop acquaintances with many whom they can learn from, but only have a few close friends. Both acquaintances and friends are very intentionally hand-picked by the ISTJ. If an ISTJ frequently and voluntarily approaches and speaks to you, that alone is a compliment. They think you have something to offer them that they lack. 


This all sounds very calculating and selfish. Sometimes, though, the ISTJ does make a sacrificial relationship. They see someone who needs them, and they are willing to take the responsibility for making that person successful in their project or comfortable in their surroundings (they much prefer and are better at the former). Sometimes they regret that they have taken on this responsibility, though, and feel resentful and trapped in by this duty-compelled project or relationship, even though they made the initial decision to commit. 

Introverted feeling is the ISTJ's third function. In other words, my feelings are in fact weaker than my thinking, but not nearly as much as they seem, because the thinking function is extroverted and the feeling function is introverted. Feeling is therefore EXTREMELY difficult for ISTJs to display, and when we try to force ourselves to act in a feeling manner it can end up seeming ridiculous to us and everyone else (I speak this from experience). ISTJs' intuition is extroverted, but it is also our fourth, and worst function. I think the extroverted intuition is why I like to stereotype people, but I am also bad at it because my intuition is crushed by my far superior and more reliable vast amount of concrete sensory data. When I stereotype it is not directed by my gut, but my knowledge that a particular observed trait in a person usually lines up with other traits I have observed in many other similar people.

Acting on feeling or intuition seems very unstable to the fact-grounded ISTJs, but we realize other people sometimes need the illusion of spontaneity, so we prepare for it by studying different subjects to talk about, and have to be intentional about showing emotion, affection, and so forth. This does not mean we are not actually feeling it, we just feel no need to express it externally (for our own sake, anyway). I don't know if other ISTJs do this, but I actually plan how I will react to some things before time, if I know external display of feelings is important to the person I am interacting with, and I care about them enough to stretch myself out of my comfort zone to give them personal satisfaction. This is very draining, however (even more so because doing this intentionally makes me feel slightly "fake", which is a terrible thought to the truth driven ISTJ). If I am displaying the more negative emotions such as anger, sadness, or anxiety, those are genuine and unplanned and I'm probably beating myself up for losing control. In fact I probably have a much higher threshold for displaying these than those who are emotionally impulsive, because that means the feelings were strong enough to get past all of my usual barriers of logic, self control, and the desire to uphold order and not be a nuisance. I never plan to display something that would distress someone else especially when its me centric.



The dry sense of humor is actually a large part of the ISTJs personality that many people do not recognize and/or appreciate. For one thing, most of our snarky comments we keep to ourselves, and for another thing, many times people do not even realize that we are joking, because we joke with a straight face. If I am not careful, my sense of humor can be quite cruel, because I use true, concrete facts about something at just the right moment to bring out the irony in it. If people are particularly attached to that thing, they may get offended on its behalf. Lots of times I am rather fond of the things I make fun of myself, and I like jokes that relate to the things I am familiar with and understand the most, since I can see the irony from the most angles with the data I have internally gathered that relates to said topic, so I do not necessarily see this as offensive, but the more sensitive types take it quite personally sometimes. 

Pretty much, don't take ISTJs personally. They don't mean it that way. If an ISTJ actually voices one of these snarky comments at your expense it is because they like you enough to have gathered a significant amount of data on you, and devoted time and thought to organizing that data into the perfectly timed jab. Be flattered. 



The one trait I would prefer to change is my general insensitivity. Sometimes this is nice, since I take criticism well, and am capable of providing criticism clearly and objectively. Errors jump out at me, so I see them quickly as well. However, this creates difficulty in relating to people, providing support and comfort, and being enthusiastic about things that are not extremely high quality and practically useful.

Sorry that was so long, but hopefully this post will clear some things up about the ISTJ personality for you. It is a common personality, and is generally uncommunicative of its own feelings and thought processes, so a lot of misconceptions have been formed considering the exact amount of boring and lack of emotion in the ISTJ.

Finally, I have taken this test in about a dozen different websites, and read the information provided on my personality on each to develop an idea of the general consensus on ISTJs, as well as to get some different perspectives on the issue. https://www.16personalities.com is one that seems fairly mainstream and accurate. 

The two people I am going to tag are: 
Madi Hageman at Once Lost now Found
Sharon Small at The Smallest Small


13 comments:

  1. Hehe, those - er, comments on the button were hilarious. I'll admit to laughing, especially at that last one ;)
    Wow. Okay, I relate a lot to that. I'm an INFP-T, so there are a few things that aren't too familiar, but other than that, it was like reading you describe me :P

    George Washington was an ISTJ?!? Didn't know that -but that's so cool!
    Totally agree with you on the observant and thoughtful part of introverts. Do you find yourself observing people a lot? Or trying to analyze their actions?
    Friendships and relationships, yes! Hard at times, but always so totally worth it! ^_^
    Thanks for sharing this, Margaret! It was so much fun to read! :D

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    1. Yes, every source I have ever looked at identified Washington as an ISTJ. Interesting fact, the INFP is the shadow personality of the ISTJ, meaning that the INFP has the exact same functions (introverted sensing and feeling, extroverted thinking and intuition), just in a different order of strengths. The ISTJ's creative moments and off-beat sense of humor is probably their shadow personality showing through a little. For me, my shadow personality shows up the most when I just finished a performance or completed a project so my ISTJ side feels like it has done its duty for the day and can relax a little now.

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    2. Oh, also, I don't know if this works the other way around, but if you are a Turbulent INFP you may have some prominent ISTJ leanings, and try to structure your life like one because you admire the traits. I am more on the Assertive side, but I do try to act (or wish I could) like an INFP occasionally, if I think the ISTJ side can't deal with a situation well (like if it involves rolling with the punches or creative brainstorming).
      And yes, I observe people constantly and try to analyze their actions. I have come to the conclusion that ENFPs make NO sense. I have been analyzing several of them for years and still can't predict what they will do next except that it will be irrational.
      ESFPs are also disruptive to an orderly life, but at least they don't try to enlist you in their disorganization before getting distracted and leaving you in charge of it.

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    3. Did you find that learning about the different personalities helped you understand others better? In my case at least, I didn't even try to understand people until I stumbled across MBTI, and now I know what I'm looking for, as opposed to attempting to piece things together in an Intuitive way (which doesn't work for me, yet). Even still, I'm fairly terrible at it. I have an INFJ friend who amazes me because he can guess a stranger's personality in the blink of an eye.

      So you don't find yourself particularly drawn to ENFPs? My closest friend at the moment happens to be an ENFP, and I love her for her spontaneity and energy. It inspires me.

      Oh, one more question, especially since you mentioned you're more Assertive: do you ever find yourself "stress-paralyzed" (to quote Mom's Night Out)? I'm a Turbulent and I've discovered that to be an incredibly accurate description of what happens the day before another CLEP.

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    4. One more question: why is INFP said to be the ISTJ shadow personality (and vice versa), and not ENFP, since ENFP has the same functions but in complete opposite order?

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    5. I am not sure on this one. ENFP seems like it would make the most sense as a complete shadow, but maybe it is INFP because you stay introverted or extroverted in the way you present yourself no matter what the other functions do.

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    6. Some of the personalities it helped to research, but with the NF personalities it is still really hard for me to wrap my head around their completely different way of looking at things. This may be due to intuition and feelings being really hard to put into words and concrete ideas I can understand because of their very fuzzy and feel-y nature.
      I actually gravitate to working with ENFPs whenever I am on a really and truly project, probably because they are constantly coming up with projects and stuff to do, and probably because the projects they come up with often resound with my idealistic shadow personality. As an ISTJ, projects are what I am good at, and they do not want to do the mundane things that I exist to check off the list, so we work together great as long as I am not overloaded with other projects and they keep adding new ones unnecessarily. So ENFPs drive me up the wall and fascinate me at the same time.
      Yes, I get stress-paralyzed sometimes (both before and after deadlines), but usually only with things I really care about. Over the last few years I have learned to approach deadlines with a level head, but if I am not careful I will get really impatient with everything around me (including the clock taking so long and especially, especially late people and the gracious people who decide to wait for the late people, don't let me even get started on those), significantly more aggressive than usual, and my sense of humor takes a distinctly morbid turn. I become obsessed with death, specifically, in all its possibilities and inevitability. I become a martyr of circumstances.
      (As an aside, I think the secret to George Washington, Puddleglum, Aragorn, and Duke Wellington's insane abilities for courage and level-headedness under pressure as ISTJs was the fact that they were so ready to accept death as a possibility, indeed, a probability, and eventually a certainty of life, and once they accepted that they were capable of following through with their duties in calm and rational resignation.)

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    7. Makes sense about INFP vs ENFP.

      Totally agree about ENFPs, they are so much better at brainstorming and bringing novel ideas to the table than I.

      Both before and after deadlines, you say? Why after? (and do let me know if I'm asking too many questions - this subject is fascinating and I can't learn enough about it, especially about my own type and its various manifestations) Interesting, under pressure I just become sarcastic, cynical, very emotional at times, and completely unproductive. At home, that is. Around others I just keep talking, mostly about what the task I'm worried about entails.

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    8. After deadlines because I have to process everything in retrospect so that I can fit it into my grid of experiences, and then it can help out with planning or reacting to a similar situation next time. Also, while I am performing or taking a test I put my sensory processing function kind of on hold, so there is a backup of information to go through afterward... if the room was cold, the bench was too far away from the piano, if I guessed some answers on a test without enough time to thoroughly think through it, if I messed up and adjusted I like to identify what caused the mistake and if I adjusted like I should have, and so forth. I don't have time to do that while I am actually performing or testing because I have to keep looking and thinking forward and processing coming data. Usually it takes me a couple of hours to a couple of weeks to process a competition or performance in retrospect. A lot of times I probably over-analyze, but I do pull on my past experiences a lot for what have to be spontaneous reactions in the present, so it is important. I do talk a ridiculous amount about the task when processing if I HAVE to be around people before or after performances. I also obsess and gripe over things that don't make sense in the surroundings.

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  2. A wonderful...and very insightful post. Thanks for taking the time to share with us more about your character!

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  3. What do you, as an ISTJ think of ISFJs?

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    1. I think they are beautiful people. The ISFJs are loyal and fulfill their obligations, and this is one of the attributes that I recognize as a common trait between my personality and the ISFJs (and a trait I actually like about my personality), but I get the impression that the ISFJs' duty fulfilling is based on their devotion to people rather than principle (in contrast with my ISTJ personality), which gives their loyalty an added depth, at least in this ISTJ's eyes. Now this people based loyalty means the ISFJs are biased towards those they love, and unfair bias is one thing ISTJs try to eradicate in our own lives, but the ISTJs understand this bias, and are likely to cut the ISFJs a lot of slack in this area.
      ISFJs seem to be good at listening, understanding people, and will not broadcast what was shared by one person to others. ISTJs admire their ability to be genuinely interested in other people's lives and even trust ISFJs to the point of being willing to open up to them if they want to talk to someone about their feelings (which as I said in the post, are introverted, so this is VERY rare).
      ISFJs get a thumbs up, at least from this ISTJ. Close enough to understand, different enough to complement. Are you an ISFJ? What do you think of ISTJs?

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    2. Yes, I am an ISFJ. I was wondering your thoughts because I know ISFJs show a lot more emotion than ISTJs and I was wondering your opinion on that! XD

      Yes I love ISTJs. So many of my friends are ISTJs it's quite cool. It really is a great thing because they almost bring be back to reality so to speak. They are super devoted, loyal, trustworthy, and always are honest, and these are all traits I want in a friend.

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